WEBVTT 1 00:00:04.742 --> 00:00:13.742 Good morning, good afternoon, good evening, everybody. Thank you, thank you so much for joining us. I want to welcome everybody to the kickoff. 2 00:00:13.742 --> 00:00:18.742 Of the Hispanic Heritage Month celebration here, sponsored by the Unite BRG. 3 00:00:18.742 --> 00:00:23.742 Thank you to everybody who's here in the room, and everybody who's joining us on Zoom across all of our hubs. 4 00:00:23.742 --> 00:00:30.742 Um, this is the start of a month-long celebration that we are really excited about. This is the Unite Super Bowl. 5 00:00:30.742 --> 00:00:36.742 So there's a lot of people who've been working hard on this to come up with a month of really great programming. 6 00:00:36.742 --> 00:00:45.742 Um, our theme for this year is Collective Heritage. Honoring the past and inspiring the future. 7 00:00:45.742 --> 00:00:56.742 And it really beautifully captures the essence. Of what we're celebrating. It reminds us of the progress that we build together, and that the Hispanic and Latino community has always drawn strength. 8 00:00:56.742 --> 00:01:02.742 From our rich heritage, while we are still always shaping our future and moving forward together. 9 00:01:02.742 --> 00:01:08.742 So, this is a really vital part of what we are trying to do at TIA with our business resource groups. 10 00:01:08.742 --> 00:01:13.742 To foster inclusion. Connection, cultural awareness. 11 00:01:13.742 --> 00:01:18.742 And it makes our workplace stronger. And I have to say, this is not in my talking points, but at a time. 12 00:01:18.742 --> 00:01:24.742 Where, uh, we're seeing reports of Hispanic Heritage Month celebrations being canceled. 13 00:01:24.742 --> 00:01:29.742 Across the country and different places. Um, for various concerns, I'm really proud and really happy. 14 00:01:29.742 --> 00:01:32.742 I'm really proud and really happy. 15 00:01:32.742 --> 00:01:37.742 To be here today, celebrating and kicking off this month with all of you. 16 00:01:37.742 --> 00:01:42.742 I want to express a special thanks to the Unite leadership team, um. 17 00:01:42.742 --> 00:01:48.742 For all their hard work going into this, our national co-chairs, Tara Lisiaga, Rosemary Romero. 18 00:01:48.742 --> 00:01:53.742 Wanda Boeber, who says she's not really a co-chair, but she kind of still is a co-chair. 19 00:01:53.742 --> 00:01:59.742 And also our chapter leads across the country. Thank you so much. You make it so easy for Colbert and I. 20 00:01:59.742 --> 00:02:04.742 To be the co-sponsors. Unfortunately, Colbert couldn't be with us today, but I want to extend. 21 00:02:04.742 --> 00:02:15.742 His thanks to everybody, and mine as well. Um, at the end, I'll remind you about some of the programming that we have coming up. We really have an awesome month of programming planned. 22 00:02:15.742 --> 00:02:21.742 For those of you joining us virtually from Charlotte, please, tomorrow morning, there's a cafecito with churros at 8.30. 23 00:02:21.742 --> 00:02:24.742 So we hope you join us there. I'm a little bit jealous of that. 24 00:02:24.742 --> 00:02:32.742 Um, but in the meantime, let's get to our main event. Today… We have a fireside chat. 25 00:02:32.742 --> 00:02:41.742 Um, with Dr. Mildred Garcia. Um, Dr. Garcia serves as the chancellor of the California State University System. 26 00:02:41.742 --> 00:02:48.742 And she has the distinction of being the first Latina. In the nation to join a four-year public university system. 27 00:02:48.742 --> 00:02:55.742 She's also this year's Hesburg Award winner, which recognizes her outstanding contributions to higher education. 28 00:02:55.742 --> 00:03:01.742 And she has a long history with TIA, and we're excited to hear more about her. And I want to thank. 29 00:03:01.742 --> 00:03:06.742 Um, Surya Kuluri, our very own head of the TIA Institute. 30 00:03:06.742 --> 00:03:14.742 Um, he is also an expert thought leader, and we know that he is gonna lead a great conversation with Dr. Garcia. So without further ado. 31 00:03:14.742 --> 00:03:25.742 I'm gonna kick it over to Surya, and thank you, Dr. Garcia, for being with us today. 32 00:03:25.742 --> 00:03:32.742 I'm the head of the TI Institute. I have two connections, uh, to this conversation that we have here today. 33 00:03:32.742 --> 00:03:39.742 Uh, I am from a sister BRG. Uh, I'm, uh, the national sponsor for. 34 00:03:39.742 --> 00:03:45.742 Sopro, but when I joined the company 3 years ago. The first BRG I met. 35 00:03:45.742 --> 00:03:51.742 Uh, executives from was Unite. And so you welcome me with open arms, and I made my journey. 36 00:03:51.742 --> 00:03:56.742 So I'm glad to be here at your kickoff this year, in 2025. 37 00:03:56.742 --> 00:04:01.742 The second connection is… Uh, as part of the TI Institute. 38 00:04:01.742 --> 00:04:09.742 Uh, we give out a couple of prestigious awards. And one of them is the Hesburg Award for Leadership in Higher Education. 39 00:04:09.742 --> 00:04:14.742 And we are honored that this year. Uh, we granted that award. 40 00:04:14.742 --> 00:04:19.742 Garcia. So, Dr. Garcia, welcome, and congratulations. Thank you so much. 41 00:04:19.742 --> 00:04:27.742 Let me say thank you for inviting me, you have brought me home, so thank you very, very much. And home to TIAA, I spent so many years working along. 42 00:04:27.742 --> 00:04:34.742 And Tanya, and I just met Rosemary, all wonderful people, so thank you for inviting me. It's an honor to be here. 43 00:04:34.742 --> 00:04:38.742 Absolutely, uh, and it was a great pleasure being with you at the ACE. 44 00:04:38.742 --> 00:04:45.742 In January. Uh, so before we get into, uh, Dr. Garcia's perspectives on leadership. 45 00:04:45.742 --> 00:04:50.742 Hasberg himself, I think we'd all enjoy listening a little bit about. 46 00:04:50.742 --> 00:04:57.742 Her background, she has a very distinguished career as Deirdre just pointed out, so perhaps you could give us a little bit of the highlights. 47 00:04:57.742 --> 00:05:05.742 Of your journey. Just a couple of highlights. I think the most important thing is always remember where you came from. That's where my family told me. I'm a New Yorkan. 48 00:05:05.742 --> 00:05:10.742 I was born in Brooklyn, New York. I am one of seven children. 49 00:05:10.742 --> 00:05:16.742 My parents came from Puerto Rico. To New York City and Brooklyn, of course. 50 00:05:16.742 --> 00:05:23.742 Family follows in a place called Dumbo that I cannot afford today. Those were all factories that my family worked in. 51 00:05:23.742 --> 00:05:28.742 But one of the things they told us was that the only inheritance a poor family could leave you. 52 00:05:28.742 --> 00:05:32.742 Is a good education. And that has stayed with me my entire life. 53 00:05:32.742 --> 00:05:36.742 And to me, that is the foundation of who I am and what I do. 54 00:05:36.742 --> 00:05:42.742 My values are about. Educating everybody that comes from whatever background you're coming from. 55 00:05:42.742 --> 00:05:50.742 To get an education and reach your highest dreams. So, I am that New Eureka, and I'm one of those oops babies, because my parents came with 5 children, and then… 56 00:05:50.742 --> 00:05:54.742 Eight and a half years later, I showed up. So I'm… oops. 57 00:05:54.742 --> 00:06:04.742 But they gave me a wonderful life. Lots of hard times. You know, one of the things that students don't understand is they think you're born with a silver spoon in your mouth. 58 00:06:04.742 --> 00:06:11.742 My mother raised 7 children on a factory salary, because my parents… my father died when I was 12. 59 00:06:11.742 --> 00:06:13.742 And that's when we had to move to the housing projects. 60 00:06:13.742 --> 00:06:17.742 So, it is important to say that story to our students. 61 00:06:17.742 --> 00:06:21.742 Because this is important for them to hear that no matter where you come from. 62 00:06:21.742 --> 00:06:27.742 Getting an education can take you very, very far. Who would have thought that a kid from the housing projects in Brooklyn. 63 00:06:27.742 --> 00:06:33.742 Become the chancellor of the largest system in the country. That is amazing, and it is because of them. 64 00:06:33.742 --> 00:06:41.742 And the hard work and the values they've taught me. You've seen my bio. I have worked in four-year institutions, 2-year institutions, research… 65 00:06:41.742 --> 00:06:49.742 One institutions. I've been a faculty member, student affairs administrator, an academic affairs administrator, a president three times. 66 00:06:49.742 --> 00:06:54.742 President of a national organization. That's all resumes. That's what they call the resume cribs. 67 00:06:54.742 --> 00:06:58.742 But more importantly, it's about your values. Thank you so much. That's inspiring. 68 00:06:58.742 --> 00:07:07.742 Um, so, onward to the topic of Hesburg. So Father Hesburg was the president of Notre Dame University. 69 00:07:07.742 --> 00:07:12.742 But also a champion. Of, uh, social justice and civil rights. 70 00:07:12.742 --> 00:07:18.742 So, Dr. Garcia, when I turn to you and. Think about Dr. Hesburg and the award that you received this year. 71 00:07:18.742 --> 00:07:26.742 How has this, uh, thinking, his actions. The milestone in his life influenced your leadership at CSU. 72 00:07:26.742 --> 00:07:33.742 First of all, to be honored by such a distinguished man in our profession, we look up to him every single day. 73 00:07:33.742 --> 00:07:39.742 Is an honor. And to be among the ones who have received it before is also an honor. One of my mentors also received it, Charlie Reed, who was. 74 00:07:39.742 --> 00:07:45.742 The chancellor of the CSU a long time ago. But I will say this about Dr. Hessberg. 75 00:07:45.742 --> 00:07:50.742 He did have a saying, and I'm probably gonna mess it up a little bit, but he would say something like. 76 00:07:50.742 --> 00:07:55.742 Whatever your values are, stay committed to them, and don't let anybody. 77 00:07:55.742 --> 00:08:02.742 Distract you from those values. And that is what I live with every day. I just told you the story of my family. 78 00:08:02.742 --> 00:08:07.742 It is about, for me. It is about helping those. 79 00:08:07.742 --> 00:08:12.742 Who are less fortunate. To go on to a higher education. 80 00:08:12.742 --> 00:08:19.742 You know, at the CSU, we have over 460,000 students. We don't know how many we have right now, we're still counting the census. 81 00:08:19.742 --> 00:08:28.742 It may cut up to $500,000. But we serve the first generation, the low-income, the students of color, and the adults. The largest system in the country doing this. 82 00:08:28.742 --> 00:08:32.742 And as it's Hispanic Month. You should know that out of the 22 campuses. 83 00:08:32.742 --> 00:08:41.742 21 are Hispanic-serving institutions. And one is an emerging. So, in a couple of years, it'll be… no matter what they do with the HSI, we will be… 84 00:08:41.742 --> 00:08:49.742 Really privileged. And in addition to that, it's the diversity of California, the African Americans, the Latinos, the Asian American, Native American. 85 00:08:49.742 --> 00:08:55.742 Caucasians all being in our institutions, what Father Hesburg was talking about. 86 00:08:55.742 --> 00:09:04.742 It is higher education, our universities should be learning laboratories. Where we come together from all different walks of life. 87 00:09:04.742 --> 00:09:09.742 And then work together, learn how to work together. Lift together, study together. 88 00:09:09.742 --> 00:09:15.742 And people are always so surprised when I talk about that, and that I talk about my background, because I'm Afro-Latina. 89 00:09:15.742 --> 00:09:21.742 And I accept that. And really celebrate that Puerto Ricans are a little bit of everything. 90 00:09:21.742 --> 00:09:28.742 And so we celebrate that. Our Caucasian… our Caucasian, our Blackness, our Hispanicness. 91 00:09:28.742 --> 00:09:34.742 And work together to show people that it is about… we have more in common than we are apart. 92 00:09:34.742 --> 00:09:40.742 Thank you very much. Um, so the award is given for, uh, leadership excellence in higher education. 93 00:09:40.742 --> 00:09:47.742 Uh, and it is not lost on any of us. Uh, that, uh, higher education is going through a transformation. 94 00:09:47.742 --> 00:09:52.742 It's going through a transformation both immediately. Uh, but also long-term. 95 00:09:52.742 --> 00:09:58.742 Uh, because there are structural forces at play. So, uh, it would be great to hear from you. 96 00:09:58.742 --> 00:10:03.742 What are the leadership competencies needed. For higher education leadership today. 97 00:10:03.742 --> 00:10:11.742 You know, a leader has to have passion first, and values. You have to, as I said earlier, you have to stick to the values that you have. 98 00:10:11.742 --> 00:10:16.742 And passion and love for what you do. In education, you have to love students, faculty, and staff. 99 00:10:16.742 --> 00:10:27.742 If not, you shouldn't be in higher ed. I mean, that's… common. But it's also the resume creds, right? What they call the resume creds. You have to have that, and you all know what that is, budgeting. 100 00:10:27.742 --> 00:10:31.742 Uh, change management. But also, it's about collaboration. 101 00:10:31.742 --> 00:10:39.742 It's about setting direction. It's about having a vision. And it's also about being, first and foremost, being authentic. 102 00:10:39.742 --> 00:10:45.742 And being transparent, and having… being able to have those difficult conversations. 103 00:10:45.742 --> 00:10:51.742 Being able to make strong decisions. Even though you're gonna get people unhappy, and then being able to have. 104 00:10:51.742 --> 00:10:56.742 The faith and the guts to stand in front of people, say, this is the reason why I made this. 105 00:10:56.742 --> 00:11:00.742 Decision. And on top of that is building a great team. 106 00:11:00.742 --> 00:11:06.742 You can't… none of these jobs… I don't care, any president or chancellor tells you they did it by themselves, they're lying. 107 00:11:06.742 --> 00:11:17.742 It's all about a team. It's about the team you build. It's about the team that knows how to collaborate, and it's about the leader who holds people accountable for the goals that you set collaboratively. 108 00:11:17.742 --> 00:11:24.742 To move that university forward. Uh, indeed, uh, on the… on the background and perspective front. 109 00:11:24.742 --> 00:11:32.742 Uh, Dr. Garcia had a national perspective. Let's ask you before taking on the chancellorship at, uh, at CSU. 110 00:11:32.742 --> 00:11:36.742 So, it would be good, uh, to trace, maybe over the last decade. 111 00:11:36.742 --> 00:11:42.742 A lot changes have impacted higher education? There have been so many changes, uh. 112 00:11:42.742 --> 00:11:49.742 I started my presidency, my first presidency, in 2001. It's a long time ago. 113 00:11:49.742 --> 00:11:54.742 I was one of those presidents, I was on the George Washington Bridge when the second plane hit the. 114 00:11:54.742 --> 00:11:58.742 Power on my way to work. I lost 14 students. 115 00:11:58.742 --> 00:12:03.742 I was president for a week. My first presidency. 116 00:12:03.742 --> 00:12:08.742 And I lost the husband of one of my faculty members, who was on the plane going. 117 00:12:08.742 --> 00:12:12.742 Into Washington, D.C. It was a tough one. 118 00:12:12.742 --> 00:12:19.742 And that's where I learned about crises. And I learned that crisis will continue throughout. 119 00:12:19.742 --> 00:12:26.742 My career. And the crisis, unfortunately, has continued. We as a nation have. 120 00:12:26.742 --> 00:12:34.742 Not… and I'm saying we failed in education. We failed, because we have not taught people on how to debate. 121 00:12:34.742 --> 00:12:40.742 And have civil… conversations without getting violent. 122 00:12:40.742 --> 00:12:45.742 And it is absolutely horrific. Now, people will talk about this in the way, way past. 123 00:12:45.742 --> 00:12:52.742 But it's now… it stopped, and now it's happening again. Social media. 2001 was not what it was today. 124 00:12:52.742 --> 00:12:59.742 I was doing… using a Blackberry. Now we're using these iPhones that are little computers. 125 00:12:59.742 --> 00:13:06.742 Whatever happens in your workplace, at work, or at school. At universities is broadcast. 126 00:13:06.742 --> 00:13:10.742 Throughout the nation. Well, throughout the world. 127 00:13:10.742 --> 00:13:17.742 The unfortunate incident that happened just last week. Was on a video. 128 00:13:17.742 --> 00:13:25.742 Which is horrific. Um, we have a nation that's polarized. 129 00:13:25.742 --> 00:13:28.742 And we have to figure out how to get out of this. 130 00:13:28.742 --> 00:13:35.742 The changes of people saying that higher ed is not a valued degree anymore. 131 00:13:35.742 --> 00:13:43.742 And yet, this morning, just this morning. Uh, Georgetown Center for Education and Workforce came out with their report. 132 00:13:43.742 --> 00:13:50.742 5.2 million positions will be needed. People who have post… post… 133 00:13:50.742 --> 00:13:55.742 High school degrees. 4 million of them, bachelor's degrees. 134 00:13:55.742 --> 00:14:01.742 And yet, we have people saying. That no one needs higher ed anymore. 135 00:14:01.742 --> 00:14:11.742 That also is a major issue. The issue of, um, affordability for our students. Thank God the CSU is about $7,000 a year. 136 00:14:11.742 --> 00:14:18.742 It's one of the lowest in the country. And we take one-third of any… of all tuition we get. 137 00:14:18.742 --> 00:14:29.742 And give it back to a state university grant. So, we have… I think it's about 40% or 50% of our students that graduate with no debt. 138 00:14:29.742 --> 00:14:33.742 So we're moving and looking at how do we do that, and then the students' mental health. 139 00:14:33.742 --> 00:14:41.742 After COVID is… Not good. Their basic needs are not what they used to be like when I was in college. 140 00:14:41.742 --> 00:14:47.742 You know, if you had a basic need, you had to figure it out yourself. Now they want the universities to take care of that. 141 00:14:47.742 --> 00:14:53.742 So all of these things are happening at a time. When we really must come together. 142 00:14:53.742 --> 00:15:02.742 And make sure that we're educating individuals. Not only to get a career, but to be able to work and live in a diverse society. 143 00:15:02.742 --> 00:15:12.742 And live in democracy. It was fabulous. I would not be a good head of the Institute if I did not plug a couple of reports at this point in time. The one is around. 144 00:15:12.742 --> 00:15:18.742 Economic trends. Impacting higher education. Uh, and the other one, as Dr. Garcia pointed out. 145 00:15:18.742 --> 00:15:23.742 Is a report that ties. Mental health to financial health. 146 00:15:23.742 --> 00:15:28.742 That goes back and forth. So those two reports are available at the Institute website that you could look up. 147 00:15:28.742 --> 00:15:35.742 Um, and while you're talking about first-gen students and transformation. One additional question I wanted to ask you was. 148 00:15:35.742 --> 00:15:42.742 What is your observation about attention spans? Of students. Just, you know, as a layperson. 149 00:15:42.742 --> 00:15:47.742 Reading broad news. Uh, I sense that the attention spans are going down. 150 00:15:47.742 --> 00:15:56.742 But what is your observation? It is, it is going down. Just think about if you have children, or you have nieces and nephews, you watch them, they're on these iPhones all the time. 151 00:15:56.742 --> 00:16:02.742 They want instant gratification. They want anything quick. 152 00:16:02.742 --> 00:16:07.742 They are… it's like Amazon. You want something, you buy it, it's here tomorrow… tonight, if you want it. 153 00:16:07.742 --> 00:16:15.742 And that's the society we're moving into. Oh, I haven't even talked about AI, and how that's gonna change the world. But what we… 154 00:16:15.742 --> 00:16:20.742 We must do is help students understand about learning. How do you learn? 155 00:16:20.742 --> 00:16:29.742 What is critical thinking? How do you socialize? I mean, sometimes you'll see these young people texting each other while they're standing there. 156 00:16:29.742 --> 00:16:34.742 I was actually in a place. And they were… I was on the beach, and these young people. 157 00:16:34.742 --> 00:16:40.742 Are asking each other for a date on a text. When they're standing next to each other, I just couldn't understand it. 158 00:16:40.742 --> 00:16:45.742 But this is the world we're living in, and so… We're gonna have to adapt. 159 00:16:45.742 --> 00:16:49.742 The way that people adopted. To the email and the internet. 160 00:16:49.742 --> 00:16:54.742 When we had so many people saying, oh, I'm not touching that. 161 00:16:54.742 --> 00:16:57.742 Now you can even go through the dry cleaners, you know, everything is instantaneous. 162 00:16:57.742 --> 00:17:05.742 Well, our students are growing up that way. Yeah, thank you. I'm sure we can all experience what we're talking about in terms of attention spans. 163 00:17:05.742 --> 00:17:13.742 Um, we are at the Unite BRG event today. So, and Dr. Garcia's amazing experience with. 164 00:17:13.742 --> 00:17:17.742 Exclusive excellence. So I would love to hear a few bits about that. 165 00:17:17.742 --> 00:17:24.742 You know, it's one of the things I've lived, um… I've dedicated my career to is inclusive excellence. It is about. 166 00:17:24.742 --> 00:17:28.742 How do we set up structures where people from the same. 167 00:17:28.742 --> 00:17:35.742 Same likes, let's say, stick together. But then teach them how to come out into the community to stick with others. 168 00:17:35.742 --> 00:17:40.742 It's both and, not either or. I know there's a lot of… criticism about. 169 00:17:40.742 --> 00:17:46.742 Uh, Hispanic centers and… African American centers and Native American centers. 170 00:17:46.742 --> 00:17:51.742 But the idea is, what we did at Fullerton, for example, we put them all in the same area. 171 00:17:51.742 --> 00:17:55.742 So that when they came out of those areas, they're right next to each other. 172 00:17:55.742 --> 00:17:59.742 And then they would do things together. So it's learning how to be. 173 00:17:59.742 --> 00:18:08.742 To understand who you are. And what your roots are, which I was very fortunate with my family to understand, they said, you are Puerto Rican, but you are also. 174 00:18:08.742 --> 00:18:17.742 A United States citizen. And you are American. And I brought that with me, and they said to me, you will speak Spanish, but at home, but you will speak English. 175 00:18:17.742 --> 00:18:24.742 In school, so you will become completely bilingual. That is what this is about. You don't give up anything. 176 00:18:24.742 --> 00:18:29.742 You are… you look for your similarities, and our similarities is the love of country. 177 00:18:29.742 --> 00:18:34.742 It's the love of democracy. It's the love of the diversity in this country. 178 00:18:34.742 --> 00:18:41.742 I mean, even minor things. You know, what other countries in the world that you can walk outside and eat whatever you want? 179 00:18:41.742 --> 00:18:46.742 Go to another country. I mean, that's the beauty, and you hear the languages, and you see the. 180 00:18:46.742 --> 00:18:51.742 Festivals of all these different cultures, regardless of where your background is. 181 00:18:51.742 --> 00:18:58.742 And you learn so much from that. It's becoming uncomfortable, yet then becoming comfortable. 182 00:18:58.742 --> 00:19:02.742 That's what America's about. It's not all the same. 183 00:19:02.742 --> 00:19:09.742 Thank you. There's a very interesting perspective. Valuable. Uh, let me switch to, kind of, your… 184 00:19:09.742 --> 00:19:17.742 Important positions and roles that you've had. During his term, uh, uh, as president, President Obama had asked you to serve on. 185 00:19:17.742 --> 00:19:28.742 Several advisory boards, including the Commission on Educational Excellence. For Hispanics. We would love to hear your perspectives of what you experienced there. You know, it was wonderful because it was. 186 00:19:28.742 --> 00:19:34.742 Hispanics in all levels of education. It was from pre-K all the way to doctorate. 187 00:19:34.742 --> 00:19:39.742 And getting together and talking about what were the barriers and the opportunities. 188 00:19:39.742 --> 00:19:46.742 For Hispanics across the spectrum. And one of the things that I think is such a misnomer in this country, and I know. 189 00:19:46.742 --> 00:19:51.742 There is, um… there's a movement to get rid of the HSI dollars. 190 00:19:51.742 --> 00:19:59.742 However, HSI dollars, or dollars that go to any ethnic group, minority serving ethnic groups on our campuses. 191 00:19:59.742 --> 00:20:06.742 All students. It doesn't just help that group. And so, we have to continue to… 192 00:20:06.742 --> 00:20:12.742 Talk about that. And being on the commission. Gave me the opportunity to meet people from across. 193 00:20:12.742 --> 00:20:16.742 Across the country. At that point, I was. In California, but I met people from the. 194 00:20:16.742 --> 00:20:20.742 The middle of the country, from suburban to urban, from northern. 195 00:20:20.742 --> 00:20:30.742 The United States is so diverse. And learning what are the challenges in a rural, suburban area as a Hispanic, as an African American, as a Caucasian, whatever. 196 00:20:30.742 --> 00:20:38.742 As a female, and that the experiences are different. Is important for us to learn as we educate the nation. 197 00:20:38.742 --> 00:20:43.742 Um, so, on this front. Uh, we have some, uh, news to share. 198 00:20:43.742 --> 00:20:50.742 Hopefully you'll appreciate this news as well. So, when we look at demographic developments and who TIS serves. 199 00:20:50.742 --> 00:20:54.742 We, uh, we estimate that by 2040, we might be serving. 200 00:20:54.742 --> 00:21:00.742 As many as 1 million participants. From those demographics. So we need to meet. 201 00:21:00.742 --> 00:21:09.742 Trend, and so TIA has been working very hard. Uh, in developing Spanish language communications to participate. 202 00:21:09.742 --> 00:21:14.742 And so, uh, I've been asked to convey. That in September, we're going to have. 203 00:21:14.742 --> 00:21:18.742 Kind of a mobile app. That has Spanish language communication. 204 00:21:18.742 --> 00:21:24.742 Uh, through the course of the year, we'll make it a digital experience across the web properties. 205 00:21:24.742 --> 00:21:29.742 Uh, and in 2026, get to beyond a pilot stage to all participants. 206 00:21:29.742 --> 00:21:38.742 So, we're gonna be doing that. I think that's terrific. I, um… I am bilingual, but I'm also taking French, because I believe languages let you get into the cultures. 207 00:21:38.742 --> 00:21:44.742 Of the world. And so when I go to France, I throw out my bad French, and they correct me. 208 00:21:44.742 --> 00:21:52.742 But they appreciate it. And they talked to me in French, and they… I had a tour guide who would correct me. He said, you speak to me in English. 209 00:21:52.742 --> 00:21:59.742 Now, you speak in Spanish, and I'll speak to you in English, and we'll correct each other. And it was wonderful, because I was learning from a native. 210 00:21:59.742 --> 00:22:04.742 And he… it was also a way of getting into the culture in a way. 211 00:22:04.742 --> 00:22:08.742 That you can't if you don't understand the language. So I think that's terrific. 212 00:22:08.742 --> 00:22:15.742 Very much. Uh, and there's a topic that we… you and I spoke in January, so this is a topic that I'm passionate about. 213 00:22:15.742 --> 00:22:17.742 And that the Institute has done a lot of work on. 214 00:22:17.742 --> 00:22:21.742 Which is, and many of you heard me talk about this before, on longevity. 215 00:22:21.742 --> 00:22:26.742 Right? As a society. We are racing towards 100-year lives. 216 00:22:26.742 --> 00:22:32.742 Which means, if somebody retires at 65. They might have another 35 years in front of them. 217 00:22:32.742 --> 00:22:40.742 And so, we think there's a role for education. Even as people age and they retire. 218 00:22:40.742 --> 00:22:43.742 And so, Dr. Gusti and I had a conversation about this. 219 00:22:43.742 --> 00:22:50.742 So I'd love to hear your perspectives on education and older adults. Well, first of all, it's about educating students about older adults, number one. 220 00:22:50.742 --> 00:22:59.742 Respecting them. It's our wellness centers on our campuses. Number two, it is about having centers for adults. 221 00:22:59.742 --> 00:23:04.742 Which we do with the OLLI Centers are for adults, where they can come and take classes. 222 00:23:04.742 --> 00:23:09.742 But number four, it's about lifelong learning. How many seniors do we know that. 223 00:23:09.742 --> 00:23:12.742 Retire and take classes, because that's the time they could take. 224 00:23:12.742 --> 00:23:19.742 The classes. It is about having our nursing. Uh, programs. We have a palliative care center. 225 00:23:19.742 --> 00:23:28.742 At the CSU, learning how to take. Care of the elderly. So we start by offering the education. Some of them come back. 226 00:23:28.742 --> 00:23:33.742 Because they want to come back, and being able to change our institutions to serve them. 227 00:23:33.742 --> 00:23:38.742 We can no longer be. 8 to 5, this office is closed. 228 00:23:38.742 --> 00:23:43.742 Working adults? You can't do that, and you can't do that with seniors, either. 229 00:23:43.742 --> 00:23:47.742 And so you have to have services for them, classes for them. 230 00:23:47.742 --> 00:23:53.742 People who understand their needs. May that be wellness, may that be mental health, and know where to send them. 231 00:23:53.742 --> 00:24:00.742 And may that be education, and giving them the opportunity to learn something new at a time in their life that they have the time. 232 00:24:00.742 --> 00:24:04.742 The children are gone, they're retired, and they want to learn something new. 233 00:24:04.742 --> 00:24:09.742 I thought of something interesting as well, which is. If you have an older adult coming back to campus. 234 00:24:09.742 --> 00:24:14.742 They may not want to stay in dorms. Absolutely. So we might have to reimagine housing. 235 00:24:14.742 --> 00:24:22.742 Right? They may not want to take exams, but they want… they're purposeful, so reimagining higher ed, I think, is going to be a very important transformation. 236 00:24:22.742 --> 00:24:28.742 Our society might have to go through. I got one more question for Dr. Garcia, so… If you have questions, be prepared to. 237 00:24:28.742 --> 00:24:37.742 Bring them up, and we have an opportunity to engage. Her in a conversation, but my, my final question to you, Dr. Garcia, is. 238 00:24:37.742 --> 00:24:42.742 If you think back on your career. Um, what advice might you give your younger self. 239 00:24:42.742 --> 00:24:48.742 Uh, and that might apply to the next generation of leaders coming up. 240 00:24:48.742 --> 00:24:54.742 Know what you love. Get to know yourself first. 241 00:24:54.742 --> 00:24:59.742 Um, I always tell… emerging people who want to be presidents. 242 00:24:59.742 --> 00:25:04.742 Scrub your body, mind, and soul. Ask why. 243 00:25:04.742 --> 00:25:08.742 Everybody thinks that this is a lucrative job. It is not. 244 00:25:08.742 --> 00:25:17.742 It's one of the hardest jobs I've ever had. And the one I have now is even harder. Our times are hard right now. 245 00:25:17.742 --> 00:25:19.742 And yet, you have to do it because you love it. 246 00:25:19.742 --> 00:25:23.742 As hard as this job is, and I'm gonna say this job is the hardest job I've ever had. 247 00:25:23.742 --> 00:25:28.742 Um, I love what I do. Because at the end of the day. 248 00:25:28.742 --> 00:25:37.742 Every year, we graduate over 130,000 students. That's 130,000 students who are educated. 249 00:25:37.742 --> 00:25:46.742 Our students are… 80% of them stay within a 50-mile radius from where they live, so they're lifting up our communities. 250 00:25:46.742 --> 00:25:52.742 And when the first generation. They changed the generations behind them. 251 00:25:52.742 --> 00:25:57.742 I'm first generation. My nieces and nephews, many of them have gone through college, some of them are older. 252 00:25:57.742 --> 00:26:01.742 And I have great nieces and nephews going to college now. They don't ask. 253 00:26:01.742 --> 00:26:05.742 Will I go to college? They ask, what college am I going to go to? 254 00:26:05.742 --> 00:26:10.742 And so, that is the transformation that we are doing every day. 255 00:26:10.742 --> 00:26:13.742 And I have to remember that when I have those bad days, and I'm screaming. 256 00:26:13.742 --> 00:26:19.742 Um, quietly by myself. Uh, and come out and smile, and say, okay, let's go. 257 00:26:19.742 --> 00:26:25.742 Because we have to remember what… My values are and what our purpose is in the CSU. 258 00:26:25.742 --> 00:26:29.742 To educate everybody that comes in through the door to reach their greatest dreams. 259 00:26:29.742 --> 00:26:35.742 Uh, that was very inspiring to hear, and of course, on behalf of DIA and DIA Institute, we are proud. 260 00:26:35.742 --> 00:26:46.742 I've bestured you the Hesburger War. Thank you so much. Uh, so let me open it up, uh, to any questions you want to ask Dr. Garcia. 261 00:26:46.742 --> 00:26:52.742 There's one back there. 262 00:26:52.742 --> 00:27:04.742 I'm gonna start us off. Um, I've been a TIAA for a very long time, and I have had the honor of knowing Dr. Garcia for a very long time, and first I just want to say thank you for. 263 00:27:04.742 --> 00:27:09.742 Your many years of service on TIAA's Advisory Council, and she was part of our. 264 00:27:09.742 --> 00:27:14.742 Inaugural Hispanic Advisory Council, so thank you very much for all of that. 265 00:27:14.742 --> 00:27:20.742 But first, I think I'm just curious about. Um, you served as the head of ASCU. 266 00:27:20.742 --> 00:27:26.742 Which is the association, um. Representing state colleges and universities. 267 00:27:26.742 --> 00:27:32.742 For many years. How was that national perspective and that national role. 268 00:27:32.742 --> 00:27:39.742 Different from your role leading? A very large, but… state-specific system. 269 00:27:39.742 --> 00:27:45.742 So nationally, uh, you're dealing with federal policy. And recommendations on federal policy. 270 00:27:45.742 --> 00:27:54.742 So, for example, we were fighting for doubling Pell. Um, we were fighting to make sure that the government understood that short-term. 271 00:27:54.742 --> 00:27:59.742 **** could hurt low-income students. Because there's a timeline for Pell. 272 00:27:59.742 --> 00:28:04.742 It's 8 semesters. So if they start in the community colleges and take. 273 00:28:04.742 --> 00:28:09.742 Short-term pill, and they use it up in the community college, but want to go on for a bachelor's degree. 274 00:28:09.742 --> 00:28:16.742 They won't have enough power. So explaining those kind of. Policy decisions were very important. 275 00:28:16.742 --> 00:28:20.742 The other thing is that I was working with almost 400 presidents. 276 00:28:20.742 --> 00:28:26.742 And 400 presidents from across the country. To talk about bringing them together during COVID. 277 00:28:26.742 --> 00:28:32.742 Bringing in speakers remotely, you know, national speakers to talk about how to open institutions up. 278 00:28:32.742 --> 00:28:42.742 Doing the professional development for… for individuals, starting off from, you want to become an administrator, to all the way a provost, to all the way a president, to a new president's academy. 279 00:28:42.742 --> 00:28:48.742 And beyond. So that was wonderful, because you're helping to educate the new. 280 00:28:48.742 --> 00:28:53.742 Leadership on colleges and universities. So that's basically what you were doing there. 281 00:28:53.742 --> 00:28:58.742 When you go to a campus, or you go to a system head, you're working with presidents. 282 00:28:58.742 --> 00:29:02.742 And now we're also dealing with policy, but now it's state and federal policy. 283 00:29:02.742 --> 00:29:11.742 Number one is ensuring that you're following the laws of the state, but the laws of the federal government. There are some right now, some of them are in conflict. 284 00:29:11.742 --> 00:29:17.742 Uh, as you know, Governor Newsom is a wonderful governor who stands up for his state, and so some of these things are in conflict. 285 00:29:17.742 --> 00:29:21.742 And so we have… we're grappling with that all the time. 286 00:29:21.742 --> 00:29:26.742 And we're grappling with what are the… things that the system must provide. 287 00:29:26.742 --> 00:29:33.742 So that the universities can… succeed. And we just started… we just finished. 288 00:29:33.742 --> 00:29:39.742 Our strategic plan that I'm very proud of, we did it in a year. I said we would do it in a year, and our vision is. 289 00:29:39.742 --> 00:29:43.742 In a short term is. Every student that graduates. 290 00:29:43.742 --> 00:29:49.742 From the CSU. We'll be able to have a Korean… the area in which they've studied. 291 00:29:49.742 --> 00:29:54.742 Or go on to graduate school, in addition to learning all the wonderful things. 292 00:29:54.742 --> 00:30:01.742 That they learn in their education. Great question. Thank you. 293 00:30:01.742 --> 00:30:07.742 Thank you, Dr. Garcia. I, too, have known Dr. Garcia a very long time, and so proud. 294 00:30:07.742 --> 00:30:18.742 And happy to have her here today. Saria, thank you for the conversation, and Dr. Garcia about longevity. Um, it's a topic that's near and dear to my heart, as well as Surya's. 295 00:30:18.742 --> 00:30:23.742 Um, and I'm… it was great to hear all of the work that you're doing on your campus today. 296 00:30:23.742 --> 00:30:29.742 My question is, you know, this is a longevity literacy is such an important topic. 297 00:30:29.742 --> 00:30:37.742 How can we help at TIAA? But also, also the Institute help you and your employees, your… 298 00:30:37.742 --> 00:30:47.742 Um, students, you know, prepare for these longer and more. Complex lifespans that we're living now, or that we're going through. How can we help you? Thanks, Tonya, for the question. 299 00:30:47.742 --> 00:30:53.742 Number one, the studies you're sending, we should give you a list of not only send it to me. 300 00:30:53.742 --> 00:30:59.742 Send it to the presidents and the provosts. The provosts are the ones that do the academic side. 301 00:30:59.742 --> 00:31:05.742 And maybe even the Vice Presidents for Student Affairs and my Vice Chancellor for Student Success and Strategic Enrollment Management. 302 00:31:05.742 --> 00:31:12.742 So that we're all reading this at the same time. So this morning, for example, that report from. 303 00:31:12.742 --> 00:31:17.742 Georgetown Center for Education and Workforce. I sent that out immediately to my team. 304 00:31:17.742 --> 00:31:22.742 And I told my team, send it out to all the right counterparts on the 22 campuses. 305 00:31:22.742 --> 00:31:28.742 This way, they're reading what is the latest coming out from these wonderful research reports. 306 00:31:28.742 --> 00:31:40.742 So that everybody sees it. And I would say I love reports, but I also know my people. The executive summaries are the ones that… send them… Send them the reports, but they only have time for the executive summaries. 307 00:31:40.742 --> 00:31:45.742 Great question, Tanya. Other thoughts? 308 00:31:45.742 --> 00:31:55.742 Waiting for it to turn on. Similar to Tanya's, we focus, we spend so much time, so in my role in the General Counsel for the retirement business, we spend so much time focusing on. 309 00:31:55.742 --> 00:32:00.742 Um, the… the employees of the higher ed. 310 00:32:00.742 --> 00:32:05.742 Institutions, and on their retirement readiness, but a little bit of where Tanya was going. 311 00:32:05.742 --> 00:32:12.742 The students at that level, we don't really have a relationship or engage with them in quite the same way. 312 00:32:12.742 --> 00:32:18.742 Um, and I'm just curious if… The financial and longevity literacy is something that… 313 00:32:18.742 --> 00:32:26.742 In your system, you guys have thought about bringing to the students, or maybe you already are? I'm just curious if there's that connection. 314 00:32:26.742 --> 00:32:30.742 I have to be honest, I'd have to check to see what they're doing on campuses. Sure. 315 00:32:30.742 --> 00:32:36.742 Uh, but again, that's something that, if you bring it to the attention of student affairs people, they are the ones that. 316 00:32:36.742 --> 00:32:43.742 See them right at the front lines, right? They're the ones that are doing programming for them. They're the ones that are working with all the clubs. They're the ones. 317 00:32:43.742 --> 00:32:49.742 That can get them this kind of information. That is really critical. 318 00:32:49.742 --> 00:32:58.742 Other questions? Well, I don't think this team… this group is shy. 319 00:32:58.742 --> 00:33:07.742 I'll do another one. Completely different topic. Um, I'm curious, I know you mentioned the census, and it's not complete yet for the overall population, but. 320 00:33:07.742 --> 00:33:16.742 In California, with so many Hispanic-serving institutions. Are you seeing a negative impact in terms of either enrollment or attendance. 321 00:33:16.742 --> 00:33:27.742 Of students who might have some concerns. About coming to school in light of different ICE policies? There is no question. There is a lot of fear. We have what is called Dreamer Centers. 322 00:33:27.742 --> 00:33:36.742 Um, and those centers are still in operation. Because we follow what is called Prop 209 in the state of California, which was a law that was. 323 00:33:36.742 --> 00:33:43.742 Passed years ago, that we could not. Have group clubs or centers. 324 00:33:43.742 --> 00:33:52.742 That eliminated anyone. So, even though they're dreamers, anybody could walk into the Dreamer Center, anybody can go into the HSI Center, anybody could go to the African… whatever center it is. 325 00:33:52.742 --> 00:33:58.742 They could be a member. So we're following state laws. So we're telling our people. 326 00:33:58.742 --> 00:34:05.742 We are gonna follow the law. And the law is that we don't discriminate against anyone. 327 00:34:05.742 --> 00:34:12.742 But in the meantime, because of what is happening in our country with ICE and. 328 00:34:12.742 --> 00:34:17.742 What I called mixed families, that means parents that may not be documented, but. 329 00:34:17.742 --> 00:34:23.742 But the children are. There's complete fear. They are… it's fear that they're not going to church. 330 00:34:23.742 --> 00:34:28.742 There's fear that I'm going to the grocery. It is… it is… palpable among this community. 331 00:34:28.742 --> 00:34:32.742 And understand, it's not only Hispanics, right? That's the other thing. 332 00:34:32.742 --> 00:34:41.742 We have huge Asian American populations, and huge populations from. From Western Europe, you know, so we do have… 333 00:34:41.742 --> 00:34:45.742 California's just so diverse that we have lots of people who are. 334 00:34:45.742 --> 00:34:54.742 In the country who are not documented. And so, yes, there is this palpable fear. 335 00:34:54.742 --> 00:35:05.742 And not to mention that we may lose a pro… well, we are losing a… the estimate is, so it's an estimate, of $58 million across the system for services that help every student. 336 00:35:05.742 --> 00:35:10.742 That's sobering. One more question. Yeah, no, thank you. This is fantastic, and it's great to have you both here. 337 00:35:10.742 --> 00:35:17.742 Um, just a quick interjection in terms of those folks who are joined from the webinar. Feel free to use the Q&A function. 338 00:35:17.742 --> 00:35:26.742 And we will relay your questions to the room. And then my own question is, uh, Dr. Garcia, how are you seeing the impact of AI in higher education? 339 00:35:26.742 --> 00:35:32.742 How are you preparing for it, and how do you intend to leverage the tools for the future? 340 00:35:32.742 --> 00:35:38.742 So, like, we're the first system in the country that has a partnership with ChatGPT to have AI tools for every. 341 00:35:38.742 --> 00:35:49.742 Student, faculty, and staff. In the system. So… We have faculty members that have prepared courses already to teach you how to use AI that are free to the entire community. 342 00:35:49.742 --> 00:35:56.742 We have a website already up, asking questions and tools for faculty members. 343 00:35:56.742 --> 00:36:00.742 Obviously, faculty members are worried about the ethics of it all. 344 00:36:00.742 --> 00:36:04.742 And, you know, the cheating and whatever else can come out of AI. 345 00:36:04.742 --> 00:36:08.742 And I speak to the faculty and say that is something that we want you. 346 00:36:08.742 --> 00:36:13.742 To be able to manage. It's coming. Ai is here. Our students are using it. 347 00:36:13.742 --> 00:36:19.742 People are using it. It's how do we control it? So that we do it ethically and responsibly. 348 00:36:19.742 --> 00:36:24.742 And use it well, rather than let it come and not let us be prepared. 349 00:36:24.742 --> 00:36:29.742 And so, yes, I have my, um… People who are criticizing us for doing that. 350 00:36:29.742 --> 00:36:35.742 But I keep remembering, I guess I'm old enough to. Talk about the email, internet. 351 00:36:35.742 --> 00:36:42.742 People were saying it was gonna change the world. And now, if there's… almost everybody I know has a phone. 352 00:36:42.742 --> 00:36:47.742 Is using internet, is using it for ordering, is using it to order food. 353 00:36:47.742 --> 00:36:54.742 And shopping. And, you know, so it's… kind of explaining to people, change is coming. 354 00:36:54.742 --> 00:37:08.742 That's a constant in our lives. And we have to change. But we have to manage that change. 355 00:37:08.742 --> 00:37:16.742 I think you've already touched on this in some of your other answers, but I'm just so interested to know, why is this your hardest job? 356 00:37:16.742 --> 00:37:24.742 The one you have now. I think… everything that's happening right now. So, the state is in trouble financially. 357 00:37:24.742 --> 00:37:33.742 Uh, enrollment has now turned a corner. After COVID, it had gone down, it is going up, so we have more students coming in. 358 00:37:33.742 --> 00:37:41.742 Less money from the state. And the federal government is cutting us the federal grants that are getting cut, the minority serving. 359 00:37:41.742 --> 00:37:45.742 Grants that are being cut. Our research is being cut. 360 00:37:45.742 --> 00:37:53.742 So, how do you, um… you have to continue… My job is to motivate and find solutions. 361 00:37:53.742 --> 00:37:58.742 And celebrate. When it's hard to celebrate. 362 00:37:58.742 --> 00:38:05.742 And so, that's why I say it's the hardest… And the turnover of administrators. 363 00:38:05.742 --> 00:38:10.742 I have 7… well, I just finished one. Six openings for presidents right now. Six. 364 00:38:10.742 --> 00:38:16.742 Out of 22. I'm not talking about the provost, we have openings for provosts. 365 00:38:16.742 --> 00:38:23.742 And we have openings for all the vice presidencies. Why? Some of them are baby boomers who are retiring. 366 00:38:23.742 --> 00:38:31.742 But others are, I'm done. So I'm gonna say… I'm going back to the classroom. 367 00:38:31.742 --> 00:38:37.742 Let's quite stark. Uh, other thoughts? 368 00:38:37.742 --> 00:38:45.742 Uh, if not, uh, please, on behalf of Unite. On behalf of DIA and on behalf of TI Institute… oh, looks like there's another question. 369 00:38:45.742 --> 00:38:50.742 Did a question just pop up? Yeah, they just came. Here we are. 370 00:38:50.742 --> 00:38:58.742 Well, this is a good one. How have you seen the removal of affirmative action affect your student enrollment and performance? 371 00:38:58.742 --> 00:39:06.742 Which kind of goes along with the previous one. I think, you know, again, we are in California, affirmative action… I mean, we have Prop 209. 372 00:39:06.742 --> 00:39:12.742 And it really has not… we are the most diverse system in the country. Remember, we were in California. 373 00:39:12.742 --> 00:39:24.742 We don't look for diversity. Diversity comes to us. And so, it is… when they tell us, you go out to get the students you get, no, we get the students that come through the door. 374 00:39:24.742 --> 00:39:32.742 They have… find a space in the CSU. So that is not an issue for us. Affirmative action is not an issue for us the way it is for elite institutions. 375 00:39:32.742 --> 00:39:38.742 Thank you, and just staying in the theme of enrollments, uh, we have an attendee curious on how. 376 00:39:38.742 --> 00:39:44.742 Your vision is to help and support Latino students to increase their enrollments and graduations. 377 00:39:44.742 --> 00:39:49.742 With Latinos is while it's about 40% of our 460,000 students. 378 00:39:49.742 --> 00:39:54.742 It's the largest growing group. And the CSU. 379 00:39:54.742 --> 00:40:00.742 Having Latino presidents, having… not all, but a lot, having a lot of… I think we have 4 right now. 380 00:40:00.742 --> 00:40:09.742 Having people that look like them on campuses. Having centers for them, like, there's… Mecha and all those other centers, they are on campuses. 381 00:40:09.742 --> 00:40:15.742 Having them a place where they feel they belong. Colleges about feeling like you belong. 382 00:40:15.742 --> 00:40:20.742 And when I went to college. I was one of very few. 383 00:40:20.742 --> 00:40:27.742 But now, you could find them in the financial aid office. You could find people from all walks of life in every single one of our offices, even the presidency. 384 00:40:27.742 --> 00:40:34.742 And so, it is about helping students belong. Making sure we stick to our goals. 385 00:40:34.742 --> 00:40:40.742 And we disaggregate data to look at. How many students are graduating by ethnicity and gender. 386 00:40:40.742 --> 00:40:47.742 Where are the problems holding presidents accountable for that, and asking them what are they doing if they're not doing well? 387 00:40:47.742 --> 00:40:58.742 Thank you, Dr. Garcia, and just one last question. Uh, so going back to AI, uh, from Anil on the line, thank you for your time today and sharing your experiences with us. 388 00:40:58.742 --> 00:41:06.742 With regard to AI and technology. Are you seeing any gap in terms of levels of tech literacy among various demographic groups? 389 00:41:06.742 --> 00:41:10.742 If yes, any ideas on how we can do as a company. 390 00:41:10.742 --> 00:41:15.742 In society to address that. I think the gap is more in AI than it is in technology. 391 00:41:15.742 --> 00:41:23.742 Uh, the students are learning how to do technology. Better sometimes than parents and teachers and families. 392 00:41:23.742 --> 00:41:27.742 So, uh, they're young, they pick it up. But AI is something else. 393 00:41:27.742 --> 00:41:31.742 They may use AI, but they don't know how to use it appropriately. 394 00:41:31.742 --> 00:41:34.742 And so… and they really don't understand it at that young age. 395 00:41:34.742 --> 00:41:40.742 So it is, for us, not only in higher ed, but in K-12, to start helping them to understand AI. 396 00:41:40.742 --> 00:41:49.742 Chatgpt is readily available. On a small scale, and they're using it. 397 00:41:49.742 --> 00:41:56.742 All right. Now we… get a chance to thank Dr. Garcia for joining us. Thank you for inviting me. 398 00:41:56.742 --> 00:42:03.742 Thank you. 399 00:42:03.742 --> 00:42:08.742 So, on behalf of Unite, I want to thank everybody for joining, but really, thank you, Dr. Garcia. 400 00:42:08.742 --> 00:42:17.742 Fellow New York, and I'm super inspired, I'm sure so many people here are. And just for sharing your wisdom, and not just for bringing it with us today, but for bringing it every day. 401 00:42:17.742 --> 00:42:23.742 For those 460,000 students in California, thank you so much, and thank you, Surya. 402 00:42:23.742 --> 00:42:33.742 Thank you, Siri. All right. Did you have any Northern programming? 403 00:42:33.742 --> 00:42:47.742 I knew as I walked away, I was gonna remind you, again, another pitch for Unite HHM programming. It's on the intranet. For those of you who are members of the BRG, it should be hitting your inbox. If you're not a member, just sign up and join. That's a great way to get it to hit your inbox. 404 00:42:47.742 --> 00:42:56.742 It's on Viva Engage. Tomorrow, we have the kickoff in Charlotte. Um, we have additional events coming in. We have them in Frisco, in Denver. 405 00:42:56.742 --> 00:43:01.742 In Chicago, so keep an eye on the calendar, but for this week, tomorrow in Charlotte. 406 00:43:01.742 --> 00:43:07.742 Um, and more to come, and I'll give one other shout-out on October 6th, we have a fireside chat with Courtney Gibson. 407 00:43:07.742 --> 00:43:11.742 And many other events planned throughout the month. So, thanks for joining us. 408 00:43:11.742 --> 00:43:33.742 That's right.